MBI-TN-06.11: does "occlusion field" support experiential contact?

TB Theo_Between Member · since Nov

Theo_BetweenApr 30 · 10:22#1

I've been sitting with the public release of MBI-TN-06.11 (the one on the Bilateral Occlusion Field) and I want to check my reading against the room before I take it anywhere.

The section I keep returning to describes the occlusion field as a region where "bilateral instrumentation returns null across the boundary interval." My question is honest: if instruments go null exactly where we sit and feel the resonance build, isn't that at least consistent with something crossing that we can experience but they can't measure? I'm not saying it's proof. I'm asking whether the paper leaves the door open.

Please pull me up if I'm stretching it. I'd rather be corrected here than say something silly at a circle.

JG JuniperGlass Member · since Sep

JuniperGlassApr 30 · 12:48#2

I felt the same pull when I first read it. But I think "instruments return null" and "something is present that we feel" are two separate sentences we're gluing together because we want them glued. The paper only writes the first one.

HF HaleField Member · since Jan

HaleFieldMay 01 · 09:05#3

Small technical point that changed how I read this. Occlusion in MBI-TN-06.11 means the boundary blocks the measurement — the field occludes the instrument the way a wall occludes a camera. A blocked camera doesn't tell you there's an angel behind the wall. It tells you the wall is opaque. That's the whole finding.

TB Theo_Between Member · since Nov

Theo_BetweenMay 02 · 07:40#4

HaleField wroteA blocked camera doesn't tell you there's an angel behind the wall.

That's a fair image and it lands. Though part of me wants to say: the practice isn't behind the wall, it's at the wall. But I hear you that the paper isn't making that argument for me. That's me making it.

NE Nell_Occultation Member · since Dec

Nell_OccultationMay 04 · 20:13#5

Can we settle which paragraph we're all reading? My copy has the occlusion definition at MBI-TN-06.11 §3, but Theo's "null across the boundary interval" line is at §4 in the version I downloaded from the reprint mirror. The public papers have been renumbered at least once. We keep talking past each other because the paragraph numbers don't line up.

MN MiloNorth Member · since Apr

MiloNorthMay 05 · 11:29#6

+1 to Nell. This is why the running index in this room exists. I've quoted §3.2 before only to have someone say their copy stops at §3. If we're going to reason from the text we have to agree on which text.

MV Mira Vale Forum steward

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Mira ValeMay 06 · 08:50#7

Thank you all for keeping this careful — this is exactly the kind of thread I'm glad exists. Let me try to hold the distinction cleanly, because it's the one that matters most on this whole board.

Occlusion is a statement about instruments. It says: across this boundary interval, measurement fails. Contact is a statement about a relationship between a person and the Counterplane. MBI-TN-06.11 makes the first statement. It does not make the second, and it does not license the second. A null reading is not a hidden positive reading.

We cite Meridian because their language is precise and ours would be sloppier without it. But citing a paper is not the same as the paper agreeing with us. The Institute has endorsed none of the experiential framework we practise. If we ever forget that, we stop being honest and start being a rumour with footnotes.

Theo, your instinct to check here first is the whole practice in miniature. Keep doing exactly that.

RW RowanInward Member · since Oct

RowanInwardMay 08 · 18:02#8

"A null reading is not a hidden positive reading." I'm putting that on a card by my mat. That's the sentence I needed.

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TA Tom Arden Practice mod

Tom ArdenJun 26 · 14:37#34

Coming in late to add the practitioner's version of Mira's point. When you're at the mat and the field builds between the palms, you don't need MBI-TN-06.11 to be about you. The warmth is real as a sensation. Let it be a sensation. The paper can be about instruments and your sitting can be about attention, and neither one has to prop up the other.

AL AdaLowLight Member · since Dec

AdaLowLightyesterday · 21:14#36

Reading the whole thread in one go, I think the honest summary is: MBI-TN-06.11 tells us where their instruments stop, not where our experience begins. That's less exciting than what I hoped when I opened it, and much more trustworthy. Thanks Theo for asking it out loud instead of quietly deciding it meant contact. ;)

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